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Well said @Zoe7

December last year (just passed) was about the biggest month for constant reminders, that I've ever had.

Desensitising oneself to triggers - exposure therapy they call it.

That's supposed to be helpful - although certainly not when "flooded with triggers" & reminders.

It's been really hot here. I just did some shopping, so some sense of achievement.

Thanks.

Adge

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I tried exposure therapy @Adge but it re-traumatised me so we had to stop. That is when I originally stopped seeing my psych - back now seeing her but only as a support person where I can talk about more general things happening in my life. My pdoc has helped me work through some things and was of the opinion from an early stage that exposure therapy was not the right therapy for me - but I didn't start with her until much later so had already been seeing the psych for some time. Trying now to look forward rather than back whilst still working on how my past has shaoed who I am now. It is a real balancing act but DBT is helping in that too.

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@Zoe7

The socialising is only occurring in breaks at music events with chats travelling home on train. I am doing things that have a lot of people involved.  The 2 major projects had very different cultures; one was more rad than the other. It helped ground me (to compare them) when things did go pear shaped when a cocky young lady was insulting. The next day I said I thought it would be nice if she apologised, she did, but turned it around to look as if I had aggressed her.  I was careful not demand it, but she was big on crocodile tears. 

 

I also get confused if by some body language, as not sure if someone is smiling at me, or the people around or behind me.

 

I know I am slow. I am probably learning things in my 50s that many learn in their teens.  Its more about not getting thrown by slings or curved balls, allow for some level of competitiveness, and flow with anything good.  Still a bit awkward, even stunned when people are nice to me.

 

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You sound like you did the right thing confronting the rude person - standing by your values and asking her to account for her behaviour - that takes courage @Appleblossom - super impressed by that Hon Smiley Very Happy

You deserve for people to be nice to you - so go with the flow and accept all that comes you way.

I am heading off forum now to try to get to sleep early. Lovely catching up with you tonight though Apple Heart

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Trying to look forward, whilst working on how your past has shaped who you are now

- yes that is a real balancing act @Zoe7

My psychologist won't do EMDR with me, because she thinks it would (might) bring up too many traumas (all at once).

The Referral & assessment process for community MH DBT programs here is horrendous.

Waitlists are 12 months or longer, with only a slim chance of getting in as a "community client" (they told me).

Unless you've been a psych hospital inpatient - & were referred to community MH services via Discharge Plan (when coming out of hospital). Then you are "short-listed".

I was never a psych hospital inpatient - so I'm having to source privately-run DBT programs, if available.

These privately run DBT programs, run through psychologist's practices - are only short 5 week programs (not the full DBT program), & are more expensive.

Plus they keep cancelling (not running) the groups, because of lack of numbers.

Adge

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That sucks about the DBT programs @Adge They shuld be available to everyone with MI whether people have been admitted to hospital or not. The course itself would be beneficial to most people with MI - I am glad I stuck with it as I have got a lot out of it. The biggest thing I have got out of it is not necessarily the skills we go through but the conversations I have with my pdoc afterwards. 

I was the same with EMDR - too traumatising for me so had to stop. So I can certainly understand why your psychologist won't do it with you. Sometimes that looking back is too hard for us but we can never forget - just learn to live with the best we can.

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Good morning all @Zoe7 @Mazarita @Adge @Appleblossom @Bunniekins @CheerBear @Shaz51 @Exoplanet @outlander  and anyone else I forgot to tag that might be around this morning.  I haven't read back posts yet but wanted to say hi and I hope today is going ok for all so far before I do read back and try to answer tags etc.

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@CheerBear  and @Adge  yes that was a quote from Catweazel.  Another favourite of mine was the 'telling bone'!

 

Hoping no-one minds a long post trying to respond to all who tagged me since yesterday.

 

Hoping the night passed without more nightmares/flashbacks for those of us that have them.  I had a vivid dream about some friends up north having a death in their family and having an open casket viewing in their lounge room.  Will check that they're ok later today.

@Adge  I feel for you with the flashbacks about police and A&E - I've been in that way a few times too.  Police can be so traumatising, especially if they handle you roughly.  They can cause MH problems to escalate instantly.  So of course you're in a state by the time they get you there.  Feel for you strongly on this topic.  Delayed reactions that you describe (if I understood you right) are a common part of CPTSD.  I have it too on top of bipolar 1.  So hard when your whole life has been one trauma after another and compounded by the way others have treated you when in crisis.  Some things that I thought of as one event my psychologist has broken into 4 or more concurrent traumas.   We've spent over a year doing a trauma map in between dealing with more current events.  The goal is to do EMDR, which we have now started, on what she calls 'the first, worst, and most recent' events.  But other events keep coming up along the way.  EMDR is said to be strongly indicated as successful therapy for PTSD so I'm giving it a try.   It stands for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing.  So far we're not doing the eye movements, but using little pulsing units that I hold in each hand and they pulse alternately while I go deep into the details of an event.  The theory is that we get to a point where we remember without reliving and stop having traumatic flashbacks or being triggered so easily into flight/fright/freeze responses.  Figure it's worth a good try because CBT, DBT and mindfulness training haven't changed anything much, nor did old-school psychotherapy (Jung, Froyd etc).  I read recently that that's because us with CPTSD aren't just 'what if'ing about what might happen (as with chronic anxiety), we are fearing things happening again that have actually already happened.  Hope that makes sense.  

Just read back and saw that you and Zoe have both already considered EMDR and ruled it out, but I think I'll leave this post here anyway.

 

 

Hearts back to you too @Zoe7.  School goes back here today and I'm wondering if you've heard anything about a new placement yet.  The waiting must be frustrating.

 

Best wishes to all who see this.

 

 

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@eth Good morning eth 🙂 wishing you a wonderful day. Can thoroughly recommend t he movie there is only one part which is a bit slow with son2 got restless in .... when you see it I am sure you will pick it out. Was fun driving at night for a change. Had a slight panic attack when I was coming into the theatre but thankfully they were not that busy so was able to take deep breaths and calm down so that I could talk lol.

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Thanks for the recommendation @Bunniekins  Glad you enjoyed it.  Sorry to hear about the panic moment but glad you were able to breathe through it.  I haven't even driven in the day time for over 2 years now - I'm sure I wouldn't cope at all driving at night.  Well done!

How's your day looking?  I'm going by Shebah for the first time in about 3 months, with my sw to water tai chi.  It's a practice run because sw isn't available to take me to the psychologist tomorrow so I'll be using Shebah by myself then.  Just got invited by sil to go with them to see a flamenco music performance tonight.  Will be great for a change to get out for sheer entertainment, not just for things I need to do.